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SpaceRider
5/15/2007 3:15:05 AM
May 15, 2007
 
 United States National  Gas Price Average 
 
$ 3.10 a gal
 
of Gold
 
If the price continues to climb, I think our forum will see more
post relating to fuel economy, instead of performance.
 
Instead of requesting infor on how can I make it go faster, it will be
how can I make it go further : (
 
..#%@#$##%$#
It better not go to $5 a gallon Uncle Sam 
 
No Money - No Funny
Peace
wiz kidd
5/15/2007 6:52:59 AM
i went into the gas station the other day and asked for $5 in gas, the attendant farted and gave me a receipt!!
SpaceRider
5/15/2007 7:02:57 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: wiz kidd

i went into the gas station the other day and asked for $5 in gas, the attendant farted and gave me a receipt!!
 
That was funny      Mod `Wiz
I hope the receipt wasn't on Toilet Paper
 
I'm honoring the Don't Buy Gas on the 15th of May  , because I don't have the $
wiz kidd
5/15/2007 8:02:02 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SpaceRider
I hope the receipt wasn't on Toilet Paper


 
lol...that would be funny!! haha
 
lmao!
SpaceRider
5/17/2007 9:59:19 AM

The average U.S. household paid $2,277 for gasoline in 2006, up 78% from 2001, according to estimates from the Consumer Federation of America and Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports. The numbers are similar to other estimates, including those from Moody's  Economy.com.

"It's a big bite out of the household budget," says Mark Cooper, director of research at the Consumer Federation of America.

From 2001 to 2005, the most recent data, median household income rose more than $4,000, nearly 10%, to $46,326, according to the Census Bureau.

While higher gasoline prices have been a nuisance to all, they have placed a bigger burden on low-income households. Cooper estimates the percentage of pretax income low-income consumers spent on gasoline was 9.5% in 2006 vs. 7% in 2002. For all consumers, the percentage was 3.6% in 2006 vs. 2.5% in 2002.

For the very poor, "people buy less medicine, they buy less food" when forced to pay more at the pump, says Mark Wolfe, executive director of the National Energy Assistance Directors Association. He notes the increase in gasoline prices comes on top of higher costs for heating and air conditioning, which have stressed some household budgets.

"Businesses that serve lower- to middle-income people, they have reason to be concerned," Wolfe says.

Wal-Mart  executives this week said higher gasoline prices were hurting sales at the nation's largest retailer.

"Gas prices are causing Americans significant financial hardship," Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., said at a hearing Wednesday of the House Judiciary Committee on gasoline prices.

The nationwide average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $3.103 Wednesday, up more than a penny from Tuesday and nearly 25 cents higher than a month ago, according to motorist club AAA. The price set a record, not adjusted for inflation, for the fourth consecutive day. The inflation-adjusted all-time high was set in March 1981 at $3.223 in today's dollars, according to the Energy Department.

Consumer groups, along with Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, argued at the hearing that consolidation in the oil industry has led to reduced competition and has allowed oil companies to limit how much oil they refine into gasoline. That is restricting supplies and leading to higher gasoline prices, they said.

"Mega-companies arising from this merger mania have aggressively used their ever-growing market clout to subject consumers to increasing prices and unnerving market volatility," Blumenthal said. "Big Oil has created a market on the brink."

But a representative from the oil industry said the higher gasoline prices were a result of elevated crude-oil costs set on world markets, strong demand, a decline in imports, environmental mandates for specialty gasoline blends and necessary refinery maintenance.

"The recent price increases reflect the forces of supply and demand," American Petroleum Institute chief economist John Felmy said.
I feel for those in Canada : (
Copyright 2007 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. All Rights Reserved.
2007-05-17 06:53:25
rj
5/17/2007 12:35:36 PM
I'm honoring the Don't Buy Gas on the 15th of May  , because I don't have the
 
I did!!!
 
 
I heard on the radio yesterday that if we all save one gallon of gas (say in the month of june) it would force the price of gas down in the U.S.
I personally find this statement BS. Due to the times they RAISED the price/gal when they said demand was down.
 
 
04 Intimidator
5/17/2007 3:04:11 PM
Space - according to some other researchers, moms paid more for SUVs to haul their kids to school, the grocery store and to go offroading through the parking lot of Starbucks.
 
In related news some moms discovered that their Saturn Ion can do the same thing.
Laserblue06ss
5/18/2007 10:35:05 AM
I just filled my tank today and the station owner said " Better fill it now.Next week it is going to $4.00"  His prices today were $3.02 for 87 octane,$3.12 for 89,and $3.22 for the 93.He said he just talked to "them" (I guess meaning Exxon corporate guys) and that is what they said.
By the way,this was in Allentown,PA.
SpaceRider
5/18/2007 11:17:36 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Laserblue06ss

I just filled my tank today and the station owner said " Better fill it now.Next week it is going to $4.00"  His prices today were $3.02 for 87 octane,$3.12 for 89,and $3.22 for the 93.He said he just talked to "them" (I guess meaning Exxon corporate guys) and that is what they said.
By the way,this was in Allentown,PA.
David, by the time I get out of college in a few years, I won't be able to afford
a road trip around North America.  I wish I had stock in EXxon : )
It just makes me want 2 cry
 
Space
SolaraSlayer
5/18/2007 11:23:57 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Laserblue06ss

I just filled my tank today and the station owner said " Better fill it now.Next week it is going to $4.00"  His prices today were $3.02 for 87 octane,$3.12 for 89,and $3.22 for the 93.He said he just talked to "them" (I guess meaning Exxon corporate guys) and that is what they said.
By the way,this was in Allentown,PA.

Gas just dropped here in Cali about .10 in the last week.  I'm sure that we here have our own refineries and use a different source from the rest of the world.
 
Supposedly after Mother's day and the restarting of some West Coast refineries, the prices let up very little.
 
I suspect they will be back up for Memorial Day traveling.
 
Boycotting gas mostly hurts the small gas station owners.  Cutting out traveling for the holidays really kills the oil companies.
 
When I used to travel, I used to fill up 4 times a day for 2 days straight.  Thats a months of normal activity in jsut 2 days.
 
We need to consider drastically cutting down our vacation and weekend traveling and stay home for 6 months or more.
rj
5/18/2007 4:30:41 PM
Our gas was at $3.29 two days ago.
 
Yesterday (and this morning) it was at $3.02/gal. When I got work this monring it was at $3.26/gal.
 
Nice jump in prices again.
 
Revitupfaster
5/18/2007 4:31:20 PM
Can you imagine what it will cost for the family to drive to their cottage in the big honkin' SUV, bomb around in the boat, and Seadoo for the weekend, and then drive home. And expect to do this every weekend???  WTF how much money do people make to be able to afford this.
SolaraSlayer
5/18/2007 4:44:56 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Revitupfaster

Can you imagine what it will cost for the family to drive to their cottage in the big honkin' SUV, bomb around in the boat, and Seadoo for the weekend, and then drive home. And expect to do this every weekend???  WTF how much money do people make to be able to afford this.

Druglords!!
SpaceRider
5/24/2007 4:39:42 AM












 We must laugh or we all would cry ourselves to Death
 
wiz kidd
5/24/2007 5:14:52 AM
just went up to a 1.14 a litre for regular up here yesterday! crazy! is there actually any reason this time?
Laserblue06ss
5/24/2007 6:15:35 AM
Just because they can.
rj
5/24/2007 3:19:02 PM
Nope.
 
Cause we let them.
 
We as the consumer have the real power. But the sheep mentality keeps us from flexing our "buying power" muscle.
 
 
SolaraSlayer
5/24/2007 3:34:32 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rj

Nope.

Cause we let them.

We as the consumer have the real power. But the sheep mentality keeps us from flexing our "buying power" muscle.



Exactly!!! I just read that people have not changed their driving habits at all and still plan not to cut back traveling this summer.
 
We are definitely willing to pay the price still!
FlynhghR
5/24/2007 9:17:31 PM
If people would actually organize and pick on say, one particular gas company per week.  This would really hit them hard.  Instead of everyone doing a general one day Gas-out.   People just buy their gas before hand and the oil companies still make the same over the week.  But if you say avoid one particular brand for a week, the flux in the market would even out among the other companies, and would hurt big oil that much more.
 
The sad thing is that the EPA hides behind the false pretense of protecting the environment, when it's their regulations that keep companies from building new refineries, which means less capacity, especially when one (like the main one that feeds the Midwest market) has an explosion.  That's why Premium is 3.49 here, Mid grade with ethanol is 3.35, where it's cheaper almost anywhere else.  3/4 of a tank last weekend was 45$ and still had to put some more in yesterday to make it to the end of the week.  But I should buy some more now, because it'll probably go up over the holiday weekend, you know, there'll be some other excuse for raising it 20 more cents.  Where New Jersey (read; highest concentration of big oil execs) hasn't broken the 3$ per gallon mark yet.
 
Some markets in the mid west are limited to 85% of the supply we had last year, even though consumption is up by 2% or so. 
 
The supply and demand stuff is bullcrud, sure you look at the numbers and the facts and it makes sense at first, until you realize that something always seems to happen to the supply end of it just when demand peaks.  Oh, there was a tropical storm (not talking about a hurricane, a much less intense storm), oh the alaska lines need repair, oh there was an explosion, oh the government stopped releasing our reserves.  OH WTF IS NEXT.......?
TrapShooter8
5/24/2007 10:49:46 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: FlynhghR

If people would actually organize and pick on say, one particular gas company per week.  This would really hit them hard.  Instead of everyone doing a general one day Gas-out.   People just buy their gas before hand and the oil companies still make the same over the week.  But if you say avoid one particular brand for a week, the flux in the market would even out among the other companies, and would hurt big oil that much more.



 
The Bad thing is this would not work either.
Heres a link to where it explains why it wont work.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp
 
scroll all the way down towards bottom of the page and it explains how the oil compaines sell their gas to other oil companys.
 
Mike.
a612662
5/25/2007 5:31:38 AM
We as the public need to start raising hell with our elected leaders. Inform them that we elected them and unless they (our leaders) start doing something to stop the billions of dollars in profit big oil is making, then we will elect someone who will do something. I would not mind 3.00 a gallon if it cost 2.30 or so to make and the oil companies were making profit in the millions. It is when they report billions of dollars in profit that makes me angry
SolaraSlayer
5/25/2007 10:37:06 AM
One more time folks!
 
Stop traveling for one year!
 
This is the ONLY way to protest high prices!
 
The oil companies make their BANK on seasonal travelers.
 
SpaceRider
5/25/2007 12:53:16 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: a612662

We as the public need to start raising hell with our elected leaders. Inform them that we elected them and unless they (our leaders) start doing something to stop the billions of dollars in profit big oil is making, then we will elect someone who will do something. I would not mind 3.00 a gallon if it cost 2.30 or so to make and the oil companies were making profit in the millions. It is when they report billions of dollars in profit that makes me angry
 
I don't think our present elected officials are going to do anything, because the Big Oil
companies are the ones that BANK/Fund their Election Campaigns : (
They have just become puppets.  Whose pulling the strings ?
BIG BUSINESS
 
- The Rich get Richer & the Poor Get Poorer-
TrapShooter8
5/25/2007 10:28:18 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: a612662

We as the public need to start raising hell with our elected leaders. Inform them that we elected them and unless they (our leaders) start doing something to stop the billions of dollars in profit big oil is making, then we will elect someone who will do something. I would not mind 3.00 a gallon if it cost 2.30 or so to make and the oil companies were making profit in the millions. It is when they report billions of dollars in profit that makes me angry

 
Are you proposing that Govt take over the Oil Companies? Trust me you do not want that.
 
Just how much profit would you think is the correct amount? Right now they only make about ten cents a gallon of gas, Yes when you add up all the gallons of gas sold that amounts to Billions. So how much profit should they be allowed to Make?
I guarantee that other companies have a much higher profit on each item sold.
 
Should we also limit places like wal mart on how much profit they can make?
 
 
Mike.
SpaceRider
5/27/2007 3:57:34 AM
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