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IffyG
4/18/2007 9:39:26 PM
I was looking around gmpartsdirect and found the W-Body handling upgrade package. I have a completely stock 2002 Monte Carlo SS.
Does anyone know if the car has the upgraded parts already?
Thanks
wiz kidd
4/19/2007 8:16:54 AM
what does the handling package consist of?? probably nothing different from what you already have ...they just like to make up names for stuff..lol
all the vehicles that i have driven that say they have sport handling package or something like that i haven't noticed a difference to stock ones...i dont know if its just me or if anyone else notices this
are you not happy with the way your monte handles??
rchurch
4/19/2007 8:56:22 AM
I looked in to getting the GMPP kit, but didn't think it was that much different from stock. I ended up putting together a suspension using Eibach springs, KYB struts, and SLB sway bars. The GMPP kit was WAY cheaper, but I think my suspension is much better.
IffyG
4/19/2007 10:07:21 AM
As best I can tell the trailing arms on the car now are just some rolled sheet metal. The GMPP trailing arms look completely different (rounded).
I have looked into SLP sway bars and some BMR suspension parts as well, but they are way too expensive. Even if the GMPP kit doesnt make the car rock solid, it will at least be more fun to drive. The bang for the buck factor is my main concern.
rchurch, do you have any pogo problems with the Eibach springs and the KYBs (are they the standards or the AGX adjustables?)
Thanks
IffyG
4/19/2007 10:11:24 AM
Shoud have put this in the last post, but wiz kidd, I really like how the car handles when im just driving around town, but sometimes if I'm pushing it a little harder than usual, the back end starts to get a bit funky on me. I'm just looking for a way to tighten up the back end under tight cornering.
rchurch
4/19/2007 1:38:04 PM
They are the standard KYB's. No pogo'ing at all. I do want to go with the adjustables when I replace them, just for the adjustability. Before I put the SLP sway bars on it did get funky in the rear in hard cornering but the bars stopped that. I wouldn't mind the round trailing arms, the stock stamped steel ones are flimsy.
2003 SS
4/19/2007 6:21:21 PM
I just purchased the Eibach spring kit - I have the round trailing arms on order. I'm just trying to figure out what I need for strut mounts - I'm going with the KYB struts... I'll keep you posted as I make progress!!
Anyone who has installed the Eibach spring kit and struts - did you change the mounts? If so, can you use stock strut mounts or do you need anything special. Am I going to have the "pogo" issue??? - just trying to get everything straight before I do it.
Thank
mickey
4/19/2007 8:55:55 PM
ok can someone please explain this POGO issue that were all hearing about?
What is it?
what or how can you fix it?
Is this with the stock struts and the lowerd springs also?
Also do any of ya have alink to the trailing arms?
I would love to get this car tighter. I havent had a issue with it tryign to come around on me and i hit a 30mph cornner every day at more like 55-65 but at the same time i also like the idea of it beign a bit less body roll.
I hate that i cant get it flat in a corrner. this is the biggest comeplaint for me other then the non exsitance of the V-8 and RWD with a better tranny in it.
rchurch
4/20/2007 8:36:18 AM
Try pfyc.com. As I've posted several times, I have the Eibach springs, KYB non-adjust struts and SLP sway bars. I'm also running 255-45 z rated tires on 8.5" x 17" rims. I can push the car to the tires limit in a corner and it stays relatively flat. Before I put on the sway bars, the car wold feel like it wanted to "hop" in the rear when really pushing it in a corner and understeer was terrible. I felt like it was the stamped steel cheapo trailing arms flexing. Now I'm wondering if this was the "pogo'ing" effect everyone talks about. It didn't happen in normal driving, just pushing the car hard in a turn. With the sway bars it doesn't happen and the understeer isn't nearly as bad, but I still want to replace the factory trailing arms. I just think it will complete the suspension and tighten it up a bit more.
Donutboy97
4/25/2007 8:19:25 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: IffyG
I was looking around gmpartsdirect and found the W-Body handling upgrade package. I have a completely stock 2002 Monte Carlo SS.
Does anyone know if the car has the upgraded parts already?
Thanks
I would recomend getting this. Some of the newer MC's (like the 06+ SS have some of the parts) but this will be an improvement for your MC. you can even run the Comp G rear sway which is solid... I have to get the pt number later though.
2003 SS
4/28/2007 11:43:46 AM
I recieved the Eibach springs yesterday - just waiting for the trailing arms and struts. I'll try and take some pics before and after...
mickey
4/28/2007 11:59:16 AM
any photos of info on this would be great.
seems we have hit on a subject that everyone else seems to be talking about also.
Like i siad before i noticed mine when we moved to Germany and i lived on the side of a mountain. It would get lose in cornners and also would give alot of Body roll, For this car to do it was strange for me at the time as in the states i had pushed it threw some cornners pretty good and never had a issue but after being there and Numberg race way with it i havent been abel to think of it cornnering the same since.
i feel teh roll off alot more now also.
So i really want to stop this as much as i can.
2000_BLACK_SS
4/29/2007 9:39:39 AM
i think that the POGO effect is when you hit a small bump in the round with stock springs you feel it then it goes away but with the lowering springs when you hit the same bump you feel the car keep going up and down.(like a pogo stick)
that is what it it is like in my friends 03 Gtp with the Eibach lowering springs
mickey
4/29/2007 6:41:59 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: 2000_BLACK_SS
i think that the POGO effect is when you hit a small bump in the round with stock springs you feel it then it goes away but with the lowering springs when you hit the same bump you feel the car keep going up and down.(like a pogo stick)
that is what it it is like in my friends 03 Gtp with the Eibach lowering springs
Ok thanks it was what i was kind of thinking but wanted to make sure i was on the right track.
So the spacer is just loading the springs some more so they sit in there tighter and dont allow the recoil go as much.
Kind of like a set of wore out shocks LOL
04 Intimidator
4/29/2007 8:54:20 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: mickey
Kind of like a set of wore out shocks LOL
That sounds about right actually from what I've heard.
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