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SoCalSS
6/13/2005 8:35:31 PM
I don't know d*ck about welding, so which is better for a set of sway bar brackets? I was told that the welded ones are stronger than machined, but what kind of welding would be best for this application?

04MonteLS
6/13/2005 8:54:39 PM
I'd suggest Arc welding as the heat affected zone is smaller and the welds are smoother.
SoCalSS
6/14/2005 1:05:40 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: 04MonteLS

I'd suggest Arc welding as the heat affected zone is smaller and the welds are smoother.


Still don't get it.
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 1:11:37 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoCalSS


quote:

ORIGINAL: 04MonteLS

I'd suggest Arc welding as the heat affected zone is smaller and the welds are smoother.


Still don't get it.
The question was what method would be better for the application, I answered.

If you want to be schooled on welding, I'd suggest doing a google search on the subject cause I don't have the knowledge or time to make you understand.
SoCalSS
6/14/2005 1:48:31 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: 04MonteLS

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoCalSS


quote:

ORIGINAL: 04MonteLS

I'd suggest Arc welding as the heat affected zone is smaller and the welds are smoother.


Still don't get it.
The question was what method would be better for the application, I answered.

If you want to be schooled on welding, I'd suggest doing a google search on the subject cause I don't have the knowledge or time to make you understand.




LMAO! ahha hahahhaa
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 1:50:47 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoCalSS



LMAO! ahha hahahhaa
Real talk.

I'm just as green behind the ears as you when it comes to welding.
mickey
6/14/2005 2:29:51 AM
welding 101

If yo have a arc welder then go get teh mig attachment for it then make sre it stays where you put it
lso use some heat sink clay and pack the area so that yo suck that heat out of there you dont want to destroy the metal harness in that area by getting it to hot and taking the temper out of it

Now in a pinch you could use your arc welder just pack it with the clay and weld fast.
but all three will hold them in place
oxy/acetylene is a slower weld soit makes more heat and cuses more warpage tot eh metal and also can take the temper out of the metal faster

Arc welding is a faster weld so you can add th heat to wqeld it in and get in and out fast to allow les damage from the heat

MIG puts the heat right where ya need it and will weld and penitrate he metal faster and better then any of the other two will

good luck
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 2:32:56 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: mickey

welding 101

If yo have a arc welder then go get teh mig attachment for it then make sre it stays where you put it
lso use some heat sink clay and pack the area so that yo suck that heat out of there you dont want to destroy the metal harness in that area by getting it to hot and taking the temper out of it

Now in a pinch you could use your arc welder just pack it with the clay and weld fast.
but all three will hold them in place
oxy/acetylene is a slower weld soit makes more heat and cuses more warpage tot eh metal and also can take the temper out of the metal faster

Arc welding is a faster weld so you can add th heat to wqeld it in and get in and out fast to allow les damage from the heat

MIG puts the heat right where ya need it and will weld and penitrate he metal faster and better then any of the other two will

good luck
you need spelling 101
mickey
6/14/2005 2:49:35 AM
please forgive me for not being perfect like your self.

some of us have a reason for wha tthey do or how they do it.
but i guess you cant seem to over look that.

or can you?
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 2:57:52 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: mickey

please forgive me for not being perfect like your self.

some of us have a reason for wha tthey do or how they do it.
but i guess you cant seem to over look that.

or can you?

you are way too sensitive
mickey
6/14/2005 3:04:11 AM
no that is not it at all
you have drilled me on it since you have been here on and off
get over it Im not the best speller ok Great i livewith i daily

IM DISLEXIC dose it make you feel beater to know this?
should i put it in my signiture?
i didnt think i had to hang a sing around my neck for the world to see.
Yes i dont spell well.
Meet me on the street and i can communitacte with you and a high level then most collge grads.

so sure im sensitive about it i have heard if for 34 years and i have ignored it for a while with you alone.
this dose not mean im trying to drill you on this just drop it nd get on with life pointing out the bad in someone all the ime is not weather or not they are sensitive it is weatehr or not you have brought it up several times threw the threads here on this bord.

again For give me for not being as perfec as you are.
montejass
6/14/2005 10:33:44 AM
quote:

you are way too sensitive



Let's see, you tell someone they need spelling 101 and his response was him being way too sensitive??????????????????????


I've had just about enough of your negative comments. If you cant say something nice, please keep your comments to yourself!!!!!!!!!


TVW
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 10:47:00 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: mickey

no that is not it at all
you have drilled me on it since you have been here on and off
get over it Im not the best speller ok Great i livewith i daily

IM DISLEXIC dose it make you feel beater to know this?
should i put it in my signiture?
i didnt think i had to hang a sing around my neck for the world to see.
Yes i dont spell well.
Meet me on the street and i can communitacte with you and a high level then most collge grads.

so sure im sensitive about it i have heard if for 34 years and i have ignored it for a while with you alone.
this dose not mean im trying to drill you on this just drop it nd get on with life pointing out the bad in someone all the ime is not weather or not they are sensitive it is weatehr or not you have brought it up several times threw the threads here on this bord.

again For give me for not being as perfec as you are.

understood

TVW- it's true! It's hard as hell reading/understanding his posts alot of times, but after reading his explanation it makes sense and I'll let it go. But my comment wasn't soley based upon his response in this thread, it was a general statement which also is true. He is real easy to get all bent and cop an attitude with me, take things out of context and make a mountain out of a mole hill. EVEN WHEN HE'S CLEARLY WRONG!!! Rest assured, I am going to speak my mind.
montejass
6/14/2005 1:20:07 PM
Debate is not the issue, decorum is....


I've said my peace, nuff said......





04MonteLS
6/14/2005 9:16:55 PM
The ease by which he gets an attitude and makes something out of nothing isn't synonymous with debate, sensitivity would fit that bill. But as for this particular situation, his sensitivity is understandable and after hearing his explanation I felt like an azz.

P.S.- Mickey, yes, please add it to your sig so I don't forget
SoCalSS
6/14/2005 11:45:00 PM
Wow, that got off topic pretty fast. How did it ever go from welding to spelling so quickly? Anyway, thanks for the advice Mickey, I don't know sh*t about welding, so i have no idea what welding clay or Mig is. so i will just have someone do it for me. lol
04MonteLS
6/14/2005 11:59:11 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoCalSS

Wow, that got off topic pretty fast. How did it ever go from welding to spelling so quickly? Anyway, thanks for the advice Mickey, I don't know sh*t about welding, so i have no idea what welding clay or Mig is. so i will just have someone do it for me. lol
Me and Mickey have history, I like giving him a hard time as he does me.

So you are gonna have a custom made sway bar welded together or is it a kit you buy and weld it together?
SoCalSS
6/15/2005 12:52:13 AM
Wow, this thread got so off topic I almost forgot what the original point was, i have the sway bar, but the sway bar brackets are another thing, i was going to just stick with the machined ones, but i heard that the welded ones are stronger so i was looking into that. Most likely I will use the machined ones or have someone else do the welding. I don't have a clue when it comes to that.
04MonteLS
6/15/2005 12:57:43 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SoCalSS

Wow, this thread got so off topic I almost forgot what the original point was, i have the sway bar, but the sway bar brackets are another thing, i was going to just stick with the machined ones, but i heard that the welded ones are stronger so i was looking into that. Most likely I will use the machined ones or have someone else do the welding. I don't have a clue when it comes to that.
Yeah, welding is an art, and if you don't have it down then it's best you leave it to the pro's. Sway bars are pretty cheap, I may end up getting a set.
mickey
6/15/2005 2:40:46 AM
socalSS

where are you looking at the sway bars? I have thought oif getting a set for mine also over herer they have alot of mountian roads where you are basicaly coming down the side of a clif so the switchbacks kill ya. Not to mention i would not mind finding away to stiffin this car up some more.

welding clay is just that clay........ but it sucks the heat out of the metal so that it wont allow it to warp the whole area and you can controll how much is effected by the heat while welding.





new sig. ......... !em etib os cixelsiD ma I

hope that helps ya some LOL
04MonteLS
6/15/2005 2:44:35 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: mickey

new sig. ......... !em etib os cixelsiD ma I

hope that helps ya some LOL

LMAO

That's classic stuff right there!
SoCalSS
6/16/2005 12:35:15 AM
It's actually this little auto shop in reno called Nevada Auto Works, the guy who owns it is a buddy of mine, I'm not sure who makes it.
mickey
6/16/2005 8:40:00 AM
when you get a chance could you find out for me?
I really would liek to make this thing tighter.I plan to do the spings this summer t lowere it some but fear the scrapage ( think that is how you put it)
SoCalSS
6/16/2005 10:27:31 AM
Yeah, you have to watch out for that scrapage. its killer.
warpath
6/29/2005 2:48:57 AM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mickey

welding 101

If yo have a arc welder then go get teh mig attachment for it then make sre it stays where you put it
lso use some heat sink clay and pack the area so that yo suck that heat out of there you dont want to destroy the metal harness in that area by getting it to hot and taking the temper out of it

Now in a pinch you could use your arc welder just pack it with the clay and weld fast.
but all three will hold them in place
oxy/acetylene is a slower weld soit makes more heat and cuses more warpage tot eh metal and also can take the temper out of the metal faster

Arc welding is a faster weld so you can add th heat to wqeld it in and get in and out fast to allow les damage from the heat

MIG puts the heat right where ya need it and will weld and penitrate he metal faster and better then any of the other two will

good luck



well i learned something here
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