V6 3800 turbo?

Hey guys im looking into giving my monte a little juice.  Im looking for a turbo.  What i wants is nothing special, just some juice to give it the life.  Im looking in for a turbo kit that i dont have to modify alot of things with theengine or tranny.  I just want enough horsepower before everything starts blowing.  Any suggestions and whatall would i have to do before i actually can put the turbo on?
 
 
OH and by the way.  Just ordered my rims ill post a pick in about 2 weeeks when they come and i put em on!!!!

I actually found a kit by cartuning? Any1 know if there good and it states that its set 9-10 psi. Is that low enough to where i wouldnt have to modify alot?

someone correct me if im wrong.......
 
your tranny is not gonna like having to handle more than about 300hp.  if im not mistaken.....9-10 psi will put you over or right at that mark.  if you want serious power, you are going to have to look into upgrading your tranny.

yah i think you need to upgrade the tranny if you do the turbo kit, however i think there's a guy in my town with a turbo'd gp and he didn't do anything with the tranny i dont think

So how much in cost$$$$$ ruff estimate?

it would be around the $5000 range to do it complete probably
 
i know the guy in my town is pushing out 450hp though...so well worth it :)  especially when you can beat a charger srt 8

i would look at ZZPerformance.com for ideas on tranys.  you deff need an HD trany.  turbos are actually easyer on the trany then a SC of equal power.  but without a doubt if your going to be using the power, then replace the trany.

   Can anyone make list up of what i need theres not to many places around thatll do thaqt kinda thing just so i know what im getting mysekf into?

a LOT! of work...lol...but its well worth it after your done :)

Any1 know in detail what exactly id have to do, but like i said im not looking for something crazy i just want something to give it a boost?

Depends what you are looking for.  The cartuning turbo at 5 lbs will give you great power with little risk to the tranny or engine.  You will still need to scan the engine to make sure you don't have issues, but the trany should handle it.  If you want to "safely" goto 10lbs, then you will need the HD upgrade that you can get from ZZperformance.

ok so say id go with the turbo and buy the HD upgrade.  Put to about 10psi.  How much of a horsepower gained would that be?  Ruff estimate nothing special

if you dont know what parts you need, then you dont know enough to do it or maintain it.  so im not going to sit here and give you a map and step by step just so you can get stuck and not beable to help yourself out of it.
 
i would recomend doing google searches for discriptions on how turbos work. and all the related parts... then search for forums like clubgp.com and others that have people who have done turbos.  once you learn what you need to know then start building your kit.

well to cut your search time... go to zzperformance.com or pfyc.com and you will see the cartuning turbo kit.  but again i recomend doig the research to know whats going on first.  that way you know more about whats going on.

I realy appreciate the help guys and trust me thats all ive been doing the past week haha.  I just wanted to see if you guys have any additional information.  Im also leaning towards supercharger but not really sure.  Hopefully i can make my mind up by the end of the summer but thanks for the help guys keep the info coming!

Supercharger will be easyer and cheeper.  will also save more on gas.  wont be as fast, but still will be much faster then what you have now.  its also safer for your trany

about your transmission issue.... it will depend, as they say, on the psi of your turbo.  i woudl recommned supercharging for "bang for the buck" and not have to messs with the tranny.  these trannys are rated for 280 lbs-ft of torque.  that turbo woudl probably put your around 325-350, thats an awful big push.  they probably underrate them a little, but not that mcuh so when somebody ahs exactly 280 and screw up the transmission, they don't complain about GM lying about the capacity of it.  it can probably take 290-300.  you can run it with the stock tranny if you take it easy most of the time (being 90%).  however, most people will tell you, and i can tell you from driving a couple of 300hp+ cars (not owning them, just driving them some).  when you got power, you will want to use it.  the transmission could take it today, maybe tomorrow... but its days are truly numbered once you get over 300 lbs-ft of torque.

no best bang for buck is still a turbo.  hp/dollar you cant beat it.  either way SC or turbo 350 HP and 350lbs tq is still the same!   the only diff is turbo lag will actaully be softer on the trany then a SC would be!  but a SC will end up costing 30-50% more then a comparable turbo kit.
 
for lower HP #'s the SC is the best choice but when you want high power numbers Turbo is the best choice.  and with high HP, trany needs to be upgraded no mater if your making the power with NO2, turbo, sc, or even a built NA motor!
 
the stock GTP trany the 4t65e-HD the same trany that comes with any SC's 3800 is known to be solid and reliable up to low 13's 1/4mile  this is prob about 325 to just under 350 hp and comperble Tq #'s   anything above this and the trany is doomed.   yes some tranys can go out with much less power.  as with any thing you need to not abuse the car.

Z34:  What do you think of the following?  I know it doesn't change any other internals, but it does help eliminate one of the bigger weak points, would for sure help times, and make the car much more controlable when getting on it.  It's a GMPP part.
 
http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Parts/results.jsp?combinedinput=88958682

**just keep in mind, with a stock trans its probably not going to support the 900 hp it says below, but it will support a bunch more than stock.  Plus it is supposed to reduce torque steer when accellerating.  **

88958682 NEW

Torsen Differential (not shown)

• Used in GM 4T65E Racing’s FWD drag racing programs

• Tested to 900+ HP

• In drag-race style, straight-line acceleration runs, this

results in a close to ideal 50/50 power split to both

drive wheels

• In cornering, while accelerating out of a turn, the Torsen

biases power to the outside wheel, reducing insidewheel

spin

• Provides constant and infinitely variable drive

• Power is transferred automatically without the use of

normal friction

• Extremely strong and durable, since it is gear operated

• No plates or clutches that can wear out

• Comes with new pinion gears already loaded

 

Now, keep in mind, this is probably not going to support 900 HP with a stock trans.   Just the differential is going to support more power.

thing is the dif rarely fails in these cars.  the main things are the clutch packs, and input shafts.

i heard that the cartuning kit barelyhas any turbo lag..  if you get the turbo upgrade.. i also heard the tranny can take hp.. if you get it tuned

yeh ive made up my mind i think ima go with the whipple supercharger and why im at it im upping the tranny, just to make sure, im also gonna go ahead and have a few guys work on the engine internals, everything will probably start next month and finish by next summer ill keep you guys posted

i was told by a guy with a full exaust, programer,intake,turbo kit built for the monte carlo and a rebuilt 3800 you would be at 425 in hp and be able to beat the charger for all about 10 grand  

LOL
it would be tight for 10K....  if you did most the work.. maybe... the trany you would need to handle that much power will cost about 3500-4,000 alone.  the basic turbo kits are 3K tuner is 400,  exhaust will be about another 300-500, then you need bigger injectors for the turbo and an Intercooler  another 800+   thats not counting the cost to rebuild the motor.   with high boost you will want to lower compression via new headgaskets about 150-200.   yeah that is pretty close to 10k and that isnt shipping or labor to install!
 
then you will also want better tires to put the power to the ground....  speed isnt cheep.