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Mrrench
4/16/2007 12:48:53 PM
This is a big shame,
 
BLACKSBURG, Va. -- A gunman opened fire in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech on Monday, killing 21 people and wounding another 21 before he was killed, police said.

Officials said that 28 other people are being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries after the shootings in two locations on campus -- one at a residence hall and another at a classroom building. The conditions of those people were not immediately available. The hospital has mobilized its disaster preparedness team to deal with the influx of patients.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university president Charles Steger.
 
This is totally unreal, cant even send our kids away to school anymore.
SolaraSlayer
4/16/2007 12:52:40 PM
All our prayers go out to them and their families.
 
I'll have to start saving now for that flack jacket by the time Mia get to college
wiz kidd
4/16/2007 12:56:24 PM
thats crazy...i can't believe anyone can actually do that...how messed up in the head to you have to be to do this kind of stuff
Mrrench
4/16/2007 12:56:52 PM
Still watching the news in Maryland about it.
The numbers just keep growing..... At least 2 teachers were killed amoung the 22
Mrrench
4/16/2007 12:58:42 PM
They are not sure how many gun men there were.
They at least know of one
But the shooting took place in 2 places......
The campus is still on lock down to what we understand
rj
4/16/2007 1:00:08 PM
My mother's watching it right now.
 
Unreal.
wiz kidd
4/16/2007 1:03:10 PM
(CNN) -- The Virginia Tech police chief said at least 20 people were killed in twin shootings on the Blacksburg campus Monday morning.
"Some victims were shot in a classroom," Chief Wendell Flinchum said, adding that the gunman was dead.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified." (Map of Blacksburg)
The attacks mark the worst school shooting incident since 1999 when Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado.
A hospital spokeswoman told The Associated Press that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.
Sharon Honaker at the Carilion New River Valley Medical Center told CNN that four patients had been transported there, one in critical condition.
One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, the engineering science and mechanics building, resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported. (Watch police, ambulances hustle to the scene )
The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.
Amie Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported "mass chaos."
The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.
Kristyn Heiser said she was in class about 9:30 a.m. when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.
"We were like, 'What's going on?' Because this definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen. It's pretty boring here," said Heiser during a phone interview as she sat on her classroom floor.
Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.
"They told us to get out of there so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could," he said.
Waldron described the scene on campus as "mayhem." (Watch a student's recording of police responding to loud bangs )
"It was kind of scary," he said. "These two kids I guess had panicked and jumped out of the top story window and the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape just lying on the ground."
Madison Van Duyne said she and her classmates in a media writing class were on "lockdown" in their classrooms. They were huddled in the middle of the classroom, writing stories about the shootings and posting them online.
The university is updating its 26,000 students through e-mails, and an Internet webcam is broadcasting live pictures of the campus.
The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.
After the Monday shootings, students were instructed to stay indoors and away from windows, police at the university said.
"A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows," read a warning from the university.
"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where they
SpaceRider
4/16/2007 1:25:29 PM
The News is Depressing and Sad.
 
It's a Dangerous World we live, and we never know
what lurks in the Minds of those around us.
                            
I could fill this post with incidents from around
our World about careless hurtful acts by humans.
It is beyond my mental capacity to comprehend.
I feel in my heart for the victims, their family's,
their friends, for our World.
Another sad lesson/example on how fragile life
can be.  It can all be over in a heartbeat.
    
EnJoy your now, your life...Oh, tell the ones
you love...., that you love them.
I shall pray....`Amen
`Space
Mrrench
4/16/2007 1:29:07 PM
BLACKSBURG, Va. - A gunman opened fire in a dorm and classroom at Virginia Tech on Monday, killing 21 people in the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history. The gunman was killed but it was unclear if he was shot by police or took his own life.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
The university reported shootings at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7:15 a.m. at West Ambler Johnston, a co-ed residence hall that houses 895 people, and continuing about two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building.
The name of the gunman was not released.
Up until Monday, the deadliest campus shooting in U.S. history took place in 1966 at the University of Texas, where Charles Whitman climbed to the 28th-floor observation deck of a clock tower and opened fire. He killed 16 people before he was gunned down by police. In the Columbine High bloodbath near Littleton, Colo., in 1999, two teenagers killed 12 fellow students and a teacher before taking their own lives.
On Monday, one student was killed in a dorm and the others were killed in the classroom, Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum.
After the shootings, all entrances to the campus were closed and classes canceled through Tuesday.
"There's just a lot of commotion. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on," said Jason Anthony Smith, 19, who lives in the dorm where shooting took place.
Aimee Kanode, a freshman from Martinsville, said the shooting happened on the 4th floor of West Ambler Johnston dormitory, one floor above her room. Kanode's resident assistant knocked on her door about 8 a.m. to notify students to stay put.
"They had us under lockdown," Kanode said. "They temporarily lifted the lockdown, the gunman shot again."
"We're all locked in our dorms surfing the Internet trying to figure out what's going on," Kanode said.
Madison Van Duyne, a student who was interviewed by telephone on CNN, said, "We are all in lockdown. Most of the students are sitting on the floors away from the windows just trying to be as safe as possible."
It was second time in less than a year that the campus was closed because of a shooting.
In August 2006, the opening day of classes was canceled and the campus closed when an escaped jail inmate allegedly killed a hospital guard off campus and fled to the Tech area. A sheriff's deputy involved in the manhunt was killed on a trail just off campus.
The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges.
Mrrench
4/16/2007 1:32:33 PM
For what we are hearing here,
They had plenty of time to cancel and even lock down the school after the first shootings. 4 mins before the second set of shooting all they told the stundents please becareful.
 
WHATS UP WITH THAT...... ALMOST TWO HOURS LATER...... THEY DID NOT CANCEL CLASSES KNOWING THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST ONE GUNMAN ON CAMPUS.....
Mrrench
4/16/2007 1:44:04 PM
ITS NOW UP TO 30 DEAD.....
SolaraSlayer
4/16/2007 1:56:56 PM
The count is up to 32 :(
scc24540
4/16/2007 2:36:45 PM
and this is what pisses me off "the university is open, you can get on campus from any major hwy, there are NO security or police forces active to keep the students safe...." said the college president
 
 
WTF IS THIS?!!
 
i mean good lord my high school was better protected then this
SolaraSlayer
4/16/2007 3:06:18 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: scc24540

and this is what pisses me off "the university is open, you can get on campus from any major hwy, there are NO security or police forces active to keep the students safe...." said the college president


WTF IS THIS?!!

i mean good lord my high school was better protected then this

A spokeperson said that the campus has become so huge and is so rural, that security is almost impossible.
scc24540
4/16/2007 3:09:53 PM
well they need to work it into the budget to get enough security to secure the campus. at any costs no public place i.e. a university should ever be non secured
 
but not tryin to bust you chops but all ive seen in local news lately is how great the new security forces are at va tech and today they say they dont have any security. its just a load of guano
SolaraSlayer
4/16/2007 5:02:12 PM
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wiz kidd
4/17/2007 11:43:02 AM
shooter i.d'd 
 
Gunman identified as Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old English major from South Korea
 
and also it turns out gun used it both locations...why didn't the campus lock down after the first one?? i guess we'll never know...and it can't really do much now as 33 people are dead...how sick do you have to be...i can't understand how anyone could do this...
 
 
BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- The gunman who killed 30 people at Virginia Tech's Norris Hall before turning the gun on himself was student Cho Seung-hui, university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said Tuesday.
University officials said they were still trying to determine whether Cho was responsible for an earlier shooting at a dormitory that left two dead.
However, Flinchum said ballistics tests show that one of the two guns recovered at Norris Hall was used at Norris and at the dorm, both located on the 26,000-student campus. (Watch police disclose new information about the shooter )
Authorities are still investigating whether Cho had any accomplices in planning or executing Monday's rampage, Col. Steven Flaherty of the Virginia State Police said.
"It certainly is reasonable for us to assume that Cho was the shooter in both places, but we don't have the evidence to take us there at this particular point in time," Flaherty said.
Cho, a 23-year-old South Korean and resident alien, lived at the university's Harper Hall, Flinchum said. He was an English major, the chief said.
Cho was a loner and authorities are having a hard time finding information about him, said Harry Hincker, associate vice president for university relations.
A department of Homeland Security official said Cho came to the United States in 1992, through Detroit, Michigan. He had lawful permanent residence, via his parents, and renewed his green card in October 2003, the official said.
His residence was listed as Centreville, Virginia, a suburb of Washington, D.C.
The university and police are still in the process of releasing the names of the 32 people killed in Monday's shootings. (Watch how some are asking why warnings weren't issued sooner )
"What went on during that incident certainly caused tremendous chaos and panic in Norris Hall," Flaherty said, describing how victims were found in four classrooms and in the stairwell of the school's engineering science and mechanics building.
A doctor at a Blacksburg hospital described the injuries he saw Monday as "amazing" and the shooter as "brutal."
"There wasn't a shooting victim that didn't have less than three bullet wounds in them," said Dr. Joseph Cacioppo of Montgomery Regional Hospital.
Even among the less serious injuries, Cacioppo said, "we saw one patient that had a bullet wound to the wrist, one to the elbow and one to the thigh. We had another one with a bullet wound to the abdomen, one to the chest and one to the head."
A source familiar with the investigation said the weapons found at Norris were a Walther .22-caliber semi-automatic and a 9 mm Glock -- both with the serial numbers filed off. (Watch how quickly these guns can be fired, reloaded )
Details surface
The day's first shooting, at the West Ambler Johnston dormitory, which houses 895 students, occurred about 7:15 a.m.
At the time of the shootings at Norris Hall, more than two hours later, police were investigating a "person of interest" in the dormitory shootings, Flinchum said Monday.
During the Tuesday news conference, Flinchum said the person of interest was an acquaintance of a woman killed at the dorm.
Steger told reporters Monday that when police responded to Norris
84 406
4/19/2007 3:35:25 PM
I have a cousin that was one floor up in the
building when he started shooting........thank god she's ok
at home now waiting to be called back to school ........
she's only 20............It really sucks that now she won't feel safe attending class
in fear of another idiot loosing it again
 
DINO   
Hamm
4/19/2007 4:50:12 PM
I really wish they'd quit giving so much attention to that coward that did this. They should be honoring the victims, not showing his pictures and videos. That's just an open invitation to some other messed up kid who wants the world to notice him/her. Plus I think it's really disrespectful to all the victims friends and families.
 
It's really scary though. On Tuesday when I went to my first class that morning, it came to my attention I sit in the back, right by one of the entrances. I realized that if some crazy dude came in and started shooting, I'd be about the first one to go. I found myself peeking over my shoulder everytime I heard someone coming in.
SolaraSlayer
4/19/2007 5:34:29 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Hamm

I really wish they'd quit giving so much attention to that coward that did this. They should be honoring the victims, not showing his pictures and videos. That's just an open invitation to some other messed up kid who wants the world to notice him/her. Plus I think it's really disrespectful to all the victims friends and families.

It's really scary though. On Tuesday when I went to my first class that morning, it came to my attention I sit in the back, right by one of the entrances. I realized that if some crazy dude came in and started shooting, I'd be about the first one to go. I found myself peeking over my shoulder everytime I heard someone coming in.

Hamm, I understand what you are saying. 
 
On one hand, the media encourages others who seek this negative mega-fame.
 
On the other hand, people become aware of how psychopaths act and brings awareness to the masses.
 
Tough choice to choose to show this or not I agree.
wiz kidd
4/19/2007 5:44:39 PM
well i think the general public wanted to see that...if they would have released that he sent in a video and didn't show it then everyone would have been screaming to see it...

i agree its hard on the familes and everything...i dont think this would something i could get over...it would be with you your entire life...and imagine how the students feel...

unfortunetely its stuff like this that makes our news...people dont want to hear good things..good things dont stay in the headlines as long...

as for being nervous in class rooms i think everyone would be for a little while..but this thing doesn't happen very often(and thank god) so i dont think its anything to worry yourself over
Hamm
4/19/2007 5:47:58 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: SolaraSlayer
Hamm, I understand what you are saying. 
 
On one hand, the media encourages others who seek this negative mega-fame.
 
On the other hand, people become aware of how psychopaths act and brings awareness to the masses.
 
Tough choice to choose to show this or not I agree.

 
Yeah, that's what they said on the Today Show this morning before they aired it. That's good and all, but I think the bad outweighs the good in this situation. But maybe someone's eyes will open and they will realize they know someone like that and maybe they'll save a bunch of people. Who knows...

But still, I disagree with showing the videos. Even the investigators they were interviewing were saying they thought the videos were another way he was hurting the victims families, so why show it? I think describing his behavior and what he was like would be a better option. Just my opinion.
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