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06MCLTZ
11/6/2007 7:55:36 AM
How is it with the resanator delete?  I have Flowmaster Delta Flow 40's with 3.5" tips and it's pretty loud.  In the summer I'm thinking of getting a cat-back for my car, not sure yet, thinking about getting all I can out of this car with all motor. 
God_Bot
11/6/2007 12:19:21 PM
Well, taking out the resonator didn't do too much sound wise, but then again I had it taken out while I was still at the shop so I didn't really do a comparison. I do know that I can defiantly hear/feel the exhaust notes inside, gives me another reason to take off my door panels and fix whatever is rattling in there.

How are your Pure Blue Luminics headlights and foglights? Did you notice much difference compared to the stock lighting?
06MCLTZ
11/6/2007 12:40:29 PM
About the same as stock I would say for distance, but they look great at night.  My buddies say they can tell it's me coming down the road, even when it's busy out and I'm in a crowd.  They say they make my Monte Carlo stand out from every other Monte Carlo coming down the road.  He is getting some for his Sentra.
06MCLTZ
11/6/2007 2:22:39 PM
So how did the intake go in?  Everything work out fine?
bigbirm
11/6/2007 3:26:52 PM
What a fiasco gentlemen!! Where do I begin.About the only thing that went well was the old airbox removal.Our 3900's must be quite different from the 3800 from which this kit was sourced.Not so much the engine, as the cars the engines came in. I didn't think our front-end refreshing for 06-07 was anything more than cosmetic.I thought wrong.None of the mounting places were where they were supposed to be, not even close.There is also a high pressure hose of some sort running real close to where the bottom plate mounts impeding the install of this piece.Since this piece doesn't even fit that stopped the install there.However I mocked up the box itself and even if the bottom plate fit, the air box would not.Also, in the 3800 install you have to mount the PCM from the stock airbox onto the bottom plate I mentioned. In our application the PCM as well as another sensor of some sort occupies our stock airbox. the WizAired will not accomodate the extra sensor.
I am in contact with the distributor but have not had a reply yet.they at first wanted me to take pictures of any fitment issues, however the WHOLE THING is way off base.They have to get a car locally for measurments or something because I don't think I can communicate to them the changes that need to be done.
On the bright side, I have become very good taking apart and reinstalling the fatory intake system, and I also lost some skin on my knuckles and some blood so i weigh a little less.(hey when you're fat you'll take all the help you can get!)
I will keep posting about my progress with this setback. They guaranteed with my original purchase and agreeance to test fitment, that they would work with me until we have a functional, well fitting intake.
Sorry I don't have better news!!
Take care y'all,
Jim
God_Bot
11/6/2007 6:01:07 PM
Damn, that's unfortunate, guess we'll have to wait awile more. Anyone have any good ideas for making a FWI? If I was talked through how it would be done I would try it on my car. That is if I ever get any time.
06MCLTZ
11/7/2007 11:08:58 AM
Yeah that kind of sucks, but atleast they are working with ya until it fits.  Keep us posted.  I'm also thinking about building my own, if one doesn't come out soon.  The CAI intake box and filter from MPD will fit the guy from there says.  Then I would just get better piping to go from the throttle body to MAF.  
Bob
11/18/2007 5:31:03 PM
does k&n make a cold air intake for the 06&07 SS?if so,i wonder what kind of fit that intake would be on the 3.9
God_Bot
11/18/2007 9:20:16 PM
Yes, they do make one for the SS, but I don't know if anyone has asked them about fitting it on a 3.9 or 3.5. Might be worth looking into.
06MCLTZ
11/19/2007 7:19:34 AM
If you go to the intake section I posted some pictures up of a guy that put the SS one on his 3.5.  It works for the most part, you are not able to use the heat shield but it does work.  http://montecarloforum.com/m_61227/tm.htm
Bob
12/15/2007 9:14:47 PM
who will stand up first and make a CAI for the 3.9 monte carlo? who ever does stands too make a lot of money.I don't understand it,so many of us went too,ask and even called .it's like no one gives a s-it. K&N makes one hell of a product,it can not cost them that much to make one. MAKE IT AND WE WILL COME. THANK YOU....
Sciggy
12/17/2007 1:12:07 PM
I would love to add a CAI for my 06 2LT monte. If one was devloped I would definately go in on a group buy. Heck, I'd even pay full price if I could be garanteed a unit that fit my car.

Steve
Cowboy6622
12/17/2007 1:48:14 PM
actually.. it could be just the members of this forum... everyone else with a 3.9 may not care.  i believe it is mostly in minivans and the impala.. not very modded cars.  the 3.8 went in Camaro's, Firebirds, Monte's.... all of these cars are generally owned by younger people who are more into modding their cars.... plus, its been around many many years. 
Sciggy
12/17/2007 1:49:34 PM
You mean people dont want a CAI in their mini van? PSH what kinda person is that?
06MCLTZ
12/17/2007 2:21:58 PM
I know right, what kind of person wouldn't want a CAI in there mini van, lol.  This is what I'm think about doing now.  Buying the K&N intake for the SS, like I posted the link above and just making a heat shield myself like 2000_BLACK_SS (Luke) did.  He has a complete write up in the do it yourself part. 
kingreyna
12/17/2007 4:53:46 PM
A guy at the impala forum made the K&N CAI for the SS fit on his 3.9. So it can be done. Its just way too expensive for me now with CHristmas and all. Ebay has cheaper but still at about $200.

http://www.naioa.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17522
Sciggy
12/18/2007 12:40:24 AM
Its just a matter of making a new heat sheild? Can't modify the one it came with? What about the tube? I have the 3.5 so I'd think I have more room under the hood than the 3.9 and the 5.3 wrong bend in the tube to make it fit near the head light?
06MCLTZ
12/18/2007 7:57:50 AM
The problem with the one you showed Kingreyna is that it still uses the stock tubing with is very restrictive
TGAbreu
12/27/2007 11:45:21 AM
In my humble opinion ( having modified hundreds of cars in the past 30 years ) the major source of restriction on the 3.9 is the restrictor at the front of the airbox. I cut off the front panel on mine, and installed a K&N filter. Total cost- $45. I really doubt any  $200+ kit would provide more of a power increase. Sounds good, too! I took this vid right after modifying the airbox:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4Vc7vYm_g 
As an aside, I did the original prototype headlight installation for GM, modifying a 2005 Monte to take the '06 head lights. It required serious surgery on the front corners of the engine compartment where the airbox goes. No surprise, then, that a unit designed for an '05 won't fit!
 
TG
kweef
12/27/2007 11:56:26 AM
that sounds like u just flat out took the airbox off lol
God_Bot
12/27/2007 12:36:16 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: TGAbreu

In my humble opinion ( having modified hundreds of cars in the past 30 years ) the major source of restriction on the 3.9 is the restrictor at the front of the airbox. I cut off the front panel on mine, and installed a K&N filter. Total cost- $45. I really doubt any  $200+ kit would provide more of a power increase. Sounds good, too! I took this vid right after modifying the airbox:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4Vc7vYm_g 
As an aside, I did the original prototype headlight installation for GM, modifying a 2005 Monte to take the '06 head lights. It required serious surgery on the front corners of the engine compartment where the airbox goes. No surprise, then, that a unit designed for an '05 won't fit!

TG


Have any pictures? I'm accessing the 'net with dial-up here at home, and wont be back with anything decent until the middle of January when I get back to school. YouTube is just terrible to wait for with dial-up.
TGAbreu
12/27/2007 1:59:46 PM
I dug out this picture that I took at the time:
 
 
 
The original air horn' purpose is to quiet down the intake noise, but it's smaller in diameter than the mass air sensor- doesn't take a genius to figure out that's not good!
 
TG


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06MCLTZ
12/27/2007 2:02:20 PM
DOES THAT REALLY HELP?
God_Bot
12/27/2007 3:09:55 PM
Interesting, I take it that the K&N filter is the drop in then and not a cone? I might have to try that out until I figure out how to do a FWI.
TGAbreu
12/27/2007 3:41:55 PM
Yes, it's a drop in. As for does it really help- as much as an aftermarket unit, which is to say you'd probably need a dyno to really see the differnce. "Butt dynos" see what they want to see. If you get 10 horsepower more (possible), you'd probably need to be an experienced drag racer to feel it. It's the combination of getting more air in, and more out that adds up to noticeable improvements ( a couple tenths or better )
 
TG
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