RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/9/2008 8:44:26 PM
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Nocturnx
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I'm ordering everything right now. Wbodystore ported blower. ZZP machined LIM, LIM gasket, N* kit, supercharger gasket. Do I need a throttle body gasket? I don't see that included in the N* kit, anything else I need to order for the install? Supercharger oil?
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/10/2008 4:37:46 AM
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ExplosiveSoundz
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You should probably get 2 bottles of blower oil ( I think it takes one and a half of the stock GM stuff, not surprised, they always do that kinda stuff to make you pay more)
I can't remember if the gasket comes with their N* kit or not.. I think it does.. because there is a specific adaptor plate that comes with it to adapt it to a Gen III casing... If Not, you could always use high-temp RTV =)
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/10/2008 4:42:05 AM
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ExplosiveSoundz
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Just so you know, once you install that TB, you're gonna want to have it tuned ASAP, as the larger TB and MAF will throw your fuel trims WAY off! Make sure you get the TPS adaptor as well.. it makes tuning it a HELL of a lot easier, and gets rid of the weird part throttle stutters that sometimes comes with upgrading TB's.
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/10/2008 4:46:26 AM
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ExplosiveSoundz
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Sorry, I see it COMES with a TPS adaptor.. so you should be good to go =)
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/10/2008 2:15:43 PM
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bumpin96monte
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I dunno- if he gets a blower with the divider wall removed, and where they port out towards the front an extra 3/8" or whatever- I'd think the turbulence caused in those two areas wouldn't help flow much.
I'm definitely not trying to stir the pot, but prove it.
NO ONE has presented information that it's worth the money to have that extra wall CNC'd out. I don't have mine done. I have an IC, and all that happy supporting mods, and still have 336 WHP. And that is with a 3.1 pulley and moderate timing (so as to not to kill my mileage.)
Like I said, not trying to stir the pot, but people on Club GP make these statements too, but have nothing to show for it.
I really think you ought to reread my post- you completely missed the point. What I said was if he gets a blower with the divider removed and does not remove it on the LIM, then you cause turbulence there. I don't see what is so hard to understand about that. There is nothing to prove- its simple fluid dynamics- you want a smooth transition from one part to the next, not a large gap.
Think about it for a second- you're a bit of air going through the blower- you exit the outlet of the blower towards the intake side, and if you had a blower with the divider removed- you would be able to move a little into the gap above the LIM, then you have to cram back in with the other airflow as it tries to go back into the stock opening LIM.
You said a similar thing with having the outlet of the LIM ported- the air runs into a major discontinuity in the wall by going from a bigger LIM port to a smaller stock cylinder head port- and you get turbulence. This is no difference in going from a ported blower with the divider removed back into the stock LIM opening.
To recap- I think if you get a ported blower where they don't take out the divider- then a stock LIM opening is fine, but if you get a blower with the wall removed, its best to at least have that LIM opening extended towards the intake side a little to allow smoother airflow.
They remove that divider wall for the purpose of people using an IC who are trying to get air to flow over as much of the core as possible (rather than restricting it to flowing through the stock opening).
I hope that cleared things up...
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/10/2008 4:11:09 PM
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Nocturnx
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Thanks for the clarification. I ordered everything last night so hopefully it will get here quick so I can get it put on and tuned before I move. Any guesses on how much HP to the wheels I'll gain from this?
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/11/2008 12:02:26 AM
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My guess, with ported blower, and northstar, maybe if someone can tune you in, 10-15 WHP, maybe more. WHOLE lot of variables... these things themselves don't add HP, they add the ability for someone to tune much better with larger intake, and cooler charges going into the cylinders from the ported blower. =)
Again, I may be low, may be high, but these things are all helping you to get on your way to throw smaller pulleys one without knock, thus giving you more horsepower =)
Bumpin, I get what you're saying...
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RE: Hey Keegan! GenV ???'s - 5/11/2008 1:33:57 PM
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maybe if someone can tune you in, 10-15 WHP, maybe more. WHOLE lot of variables...
It depends on who does the tuning too- even between tuners you can get a lot of variables too in tuning style. Some are more particular than others, and some prefer a safer tune over a tune running at the edge of knock. That will also make a difference.
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